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- Ham-Digital Digest Sat, 12 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 67
-
- Today's Topics:
- Best cars for mobile HF/VHF?? (5 msgs)
- digital reflector
- EMAIL to mid-ocean?
- G-TOR INFO
- Good car for HF/VHF mobile?? (2 msgs)
- Tandy 102 for packet
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-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:19:49 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Winnebago Industries makes a bunch of very fine vehicles for mobile HF.
- You don't even have to worry about missing your turn off!
-
- 73,
- Steve NO8M.#NEOH.OH.USA.NA
- ag807@Cleveland.freenet.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:56:13 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2lor4d$krj@brahms.udel.edu> penneys@brahms.udel.edu (Robert Penneys) writes:
- >I need to replace a car and want one which 100 watts or so of HF and 50 watts
- >or so of 2 meters or 440 will not interfere with the electronics af the
- >vehicle. Nor do I want ignition or other noise beyond the bare minimum.
- >
- >In consideration are four door sedans from the size of a Corolla up to that
- >of a Taurus. or perhaps a minivan or small pickup. Replacing a Ford
- >Aerostar.
- >
- >Will listen to all viewpoints. Tnx a million. Bob
-
- Look at what the cops are driving. Ford Crown Victorias seem popular
- with them, as do Chevy Caprices. Order your's with the same fleet codes
- that they use and you'll have a car that works well with radios. (It'll
- also have the heavy duty electrical system, cooling system, and suspension
- of a cop car.) Get the same color scheme that they use for their unmarked
- cars too, that way the antennas won't draw suspicion. (And you may avoid
- some tickets.)
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
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-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 15:14:37 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!hpwin052!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm happy with my choice, a Diesel powered Range-Rover derivative
- called a "Discovery"
-
- Give serious thought to Diesels, no ignition, no computers
-
-
- David GM4ZNX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:54:26 GMT
- From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CMIACE.D9C@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com> dstock@hpqmoca.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) writes:
- >
- > I'm happy with my choice, a Diesel powered Range-Rover derivative
- >called a "Discovery"
- >
- > Give serious thought to Diesels, no ignition, no computers
- >
-
- And no emissions controls. :-( Diesel smoke is a suspension of carbon particles
- impregnated with the byproducts of combustion, which is small enough to
- enter your lungs and lodge in the lung walls. Once lodged all those combustion
- byproducts leach out into your body. Diesel vehicles need dust traps at the
- very least.
-
- >
- > David GM4ZNX
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
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-
- --
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
- Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com
- Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com
- 508-365-5352 Compuserve: 74176,1347
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Mar 1994 21:01:46 GMT
- From: slinky.cs.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
- Subject: Best cars for mobile HF/VHF??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- |> Look at what the cops are driving. Ford Crown Victorias seem popular
- |> with them, as do Chevy Caprices. Order your's with the same fleet codes
- |> that they use and you'll have a car that works well with radios. (It'll
- |> also have the heavy duty electrical system, cooling system, and suspension
- |> of a cop car.) Get the same color scheme that they use for their unmarked
- |> cars too, that way the antennas won't draw suspicion. (And you may avoid
- |> some tickets.)
-
- I had been thinking the same thing for quite a while, too. Only not for the
- ability to work with radios, more because the Caprices look like they'll be
- a comfortable ride and the antennas will look normal on them. In fact, I've
- been trying to find the tiny antennas they have mounted on the roof immediately
- above to rear window for scanner use. That'll definitely finish the image off.
- Problem is, what are they usually tuned to? Of course, you could always get
- a cellular lookalike 2m trunk lip mount to complement the roof mount.
- --
- Steven Jackson New York University
- Assistant to the Chair of Comp Sci Courant Inst. of Mathematical Sciences
- jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster 251 Mercer St, Room 411,NY 10012
- "Not in my head.. so I don't have to think.." -- Nik Fiend
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Mar 94 20:32:47 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: digital reflector
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- SUBSCRIBE
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 21:12:56 -0500
- From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!usenet@yale.arpa
- Subject: EMAIL to mid-ocean?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- Well, let me say this. At the risk of offending anyone, And I don't mean to,
- please folks, and this is directed with a smile at Tim research your material
- before you post, I had the best laugh I've ever had read this newsgroup.
- All, I can say is the following, Tim says that in part, amateur radio was
- not created to build comunication networks, well, what do you call emerangancy,
- The Maritime Mobile Net and The Waterway Net? Hence the word net,, "Internet"
-
- I think if he stoped aminiute he would realize that his relitaves could use
- the Maritime Mobile Net, provided they could get thru all the fighting and
- crap going on down there, or they could use The Waterway Net.
-
- Please forgive me, I don't mean to come off to stronge, I'm sorry but I just
- had to get it off my chest.
-
- Regards, John In Miami
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:15:45 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: G-TOR INFO
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- To say that the computer will have to work overtime to shore up the
- TNC is confusing. It implies that G-Tor will require a specific
- application running on the terminal. If that is the case, it is time
- to cancel my order. I want to use it with an external BBS (MSYS) which
- will, if it is worth it, be gratiously added by the author, WA8BXN.
-
- Has anyone else heard that a specific appication is needed or is this
- hype due to the faster thoughput they are claiming (hi hi)?
-
- 73,
- Steve NO8M.#NEOH.OH.USA.NA
- ag807@Cleveland.freenet.edu
- (replies to the header address will bounce)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Mar 1994 07:06:39 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news.udel.edu!brahms.udel.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Good car for HF/VHF mobile??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I need to get another car and want one which will be radio-friendly for 100
- watts or so of HF, mostly CW, and 50 or so of 2 meters and 440.
-
- Criteria are:
-
- No interference to electronics of car by RF
-
- Minimal noise generated by car
-
- Reasonable space for rigs
-
- Reasonable mounting of antennas
-
- Etc.
-
- Car will probably be four door sedan in size range from Corolla to Taurus.
-
- All comments welcomed. Thanks. Bob
-
- --
- Bob Penneys, WN3K Frankford Radio Club Internet: penneys@pecan.cns.udel.edu
- Work: Ham Radio Outlet (Delaware) (800) 644-4476; fax (302) 322-8808
- Mail at home: 12 East Mill Station Drive Newark, DE 19711 USA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:01:35 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!feenix.metronet.com!serafin@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Good car for HF/VHF mobile??
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2lpmsf$8do@brahms.udel.edu>,
- Robert Penneys <penneys@brahms.udel.edu> wrote:
- >I need to get another car and want one which will be radio-friendly for 100
- >watts or so of HF, mostly CW, and 50 or so of 2 meters and 440.
-
- Shees, and people complain about the cellphones stuck to peoples ears
- while in traffic. :-)
-
- >
- >Criteria are:
- >No interference to electronics of car by RF
- >Minimal noise generated by car
- >Reasonable space for rigs
- >Reasonable mounting of antennas
- >
- >Car will probably be four door sedan in size range from Corolla to Taurus.
-
- How about a Suburban with a Diesel engine? Only interfering electronics
- you should have to worry about is the alternator. And it has tons of
- space for antennas.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:34:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Tandy 102 for packet
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CMHG3L.IKD@freenet.carleton.ca> af017@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (David R. Smith) writes:
- >
- >
- >I just bought a bare bones Tandy 102 and wonder what extra
- >accessories I need to transmit and receive email and post
- >to a packet bbs?
-
- The telcom program built into your computer will work to
- communicate with a TNC (Terminal Node Controller). This
- is an external box, sort of like a phone modem except that
- it's designed for packet radio. (No you can't use a phone
- modem, packet is different enough that it won't work with
- a regular phone modem.) These units cost from $110 to $900+.
- You don't need an expensive one, a MFJ1270 or MFJ1274 will
- do fine, as will a PacComm Tiny 2. The TNC connects to a
- voice grade radio, most likely 2 meters, but check with
- local hams first. The Alinco DR-130 is a workhorse radio
- for this purpose, costs about $300, but an older crystal
- controlled radio that you can find at a hamfest for $25-
- $50 will work just as well. (You can often find used TNCs
- at hamfests too, about $65 seems the going rate.)
-
- >I realize I need a license to transmit, but perhaps while
- >I am studying, I could listen or capture packets to understand
- >it better.
-
- If you have a scanner, you can take the audio from it to feed
- the TNC for monitoring. Use the "monitor on" command in the
- TNC to see all the activity on the channel. This is a good
- way to see what it's all about.
-
- >Also is anyone getting in trouble with the gov these days
- >for passing third party messages, as amateurs, in either
- >the US or Canada? I just read here that it is ok in the UK.
- >cheers
-
- US and Canadian rules regarding third party traffic are rather
- liberal. The UK is *much* more restrictive. Just avoid dirty
- words and commercial content and you'll be fine.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
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